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As a breeder I almost always keep a couple pups from every litter; to study, to evaluate, despite knowing there are only so many slots and almost all will have to be parted with later. Otherwise we'd triple the population, every year, and we're forever struggling to stay below capacity as is. Call it rookie camp, there is no other way to be sure which ones I ultimately want but to hang onto some when most begin leaving at 8 or 9 weeks. Those that remain are usually my picks of their respective litters. And if you're a breeder, or anyone who is more concerned with getting the best dogs possible, it's good to ask what could be had. There are often older pups and some adults that could be be had but are not necessarily being shopped under this heading at all, but are none the less potentially available.

Every year the competition gets tougher, the dogs that stay better, those that don't make the cut better also. But It's simple math, I've got to loose an adult every time a youngster impresses enough to stay. Or sell a young adult by the time I decide a change is not warranted. Either way those dogs end up for sale in this section.

I suppose the best analogy might be a sports organization. Every year they bring in new talent by a variety of means; the draft, farm system, trades, free agency. And every year they must cut down to a certain number. It's very much the same here. And I would say not only that a breeder has the luxury of being extremely particular in what is ultimately kept, but that a breeder also has a responsibility to be very hard to please on that score.

Non-pups are subject to be moved on for a variety of reasons; some times to make way for new, different, or better genes. More often because I kept a youngster around long enough to take a better look, and it was no longer a "puppy" by the time I decided not to give it a spot in the program. Or maybe we wanted one litter out of a dog, but not a second. Less often, an old dog has simply reached an age that warrants it, and needs a retirement home. All of these can still be fine pets, working dogs, or good editions to a family. In any case, chances are if they stuck around my place long enough to grow up, much less get old, they're pretty good dogs.

And such a dog often times appreciates becoming and only dog more than one who has been graced with that status from puppyhood. As a result they can, and often do, bond all the more intensely with the singular owner or family they have at long last found, which is all any dog ever really wants.

And though it’s rare that I am asked to, I will on policy, take back any dog I’ve bred from the original buyer. Typically I'm looking to re-home those as quickly as possible because at that point they are outsiders, and won't be welcomed home by my dogs.

Bottom line I would encourage anyone not attached to the idea of a 8/9 week old puppy, to consider a dog from this section. They are often the best value, particularly for those who have an immediate need a puppy can't fill. You can see some, but not all, of the current options by scrolling down. If you're inclined to take on an older dog, for whatever reasons, it's always good to call, there there are probably un-listed options, for the right homes.


Available Males





1. Brindle male "keeper" from Bogan x Trouble: "BROGAN"

( Deal for him and Tulsi blew up ) ...... BUYER FLAKED DOG NOW AVAILABLE

Quite a specimen, physically beautiful, very athletic, will probably finish out over 150 lbs. But move like a much smaller dog. As a male related to all my females he never really had a chance to stick long term.

Good natured, low in dog aggression, eager to find an owner, hasn't gotten much time from us out here. Not a livestock guardian, quite the contrary, but will make a good family guardian.

See a couple recent videos below, to get a look at "Brogan"



2/3. Tulsi's Gabbard and Sasaquatch, pick Males, giant athletic dogs.


Gabbard is 33" at the shoulder, 160 lbs and still growing , Gabbard would make a good family guardian. Minimal dog aggression like all the Bogan pups, but has not been raised with livestock, should not be considered a LGD.

I've posted a couple recent videos of Gabbard below.

Sasquatch is his baby brother, on track to be at least as big. Temeperamentally I have figured to be a little more serious dog than Gabbard, a more serious guardian.


Gabbard and Sasquatch of course have identical percentages.

25% Great Dane

25% Turkish Kangal

13.25% Neapolitan Mastiff 1

12.5% S. African Boerboel

7.75% American Bulldog

6.25% Dogo Argentino

3.5% APBT

2.25% Dogue de Bordeaux


Sire: " Bogan “

39.5% Great Dane

26.5% Neapolitan Mastiff 1

5.5% American Bulldog

7% APBT

7% Bullmastiff

4.5% Dogue de Bordeaux

Dam: “Tulsi”

50% Turkish Kangal

25% S. African Boerboel

12.5% Dogo Argentino

12.5% Great Dane

Available Females

3. "Tulsi" 3 y.o. intact female ( AVAILABLE )

BUYER FLAKED ON DEAL FOR TULSI AND "BROGAN" BOTH NOW AVAILABLE

50% Kangal

25% Boerboel

12.5% Dogo

12,5% Dane


There are many videos of Tulsi, not to mention the dogs behind her for generations, on our youtube channel, if you're inclined to you can even go see her litter as pups. So I won't bother describing what your eye can see for itself, tall athletic, etc.

Temperamentally: Tulsi is neither here nor there regards the program's Holy Trinity. She's not particularly good with livestock, her sire's prey drive is significant. But she's also possessed of Kangal life demeanor and independence. Neither road dog, nor ranch dog, nor silencer. She's really got no future here.

She would however make a good all around family guardian dog. She'll never be needy, and she's naturally protective, calm, vigilant, and essentially loving. Great with children, etc.

I'll pick a relatively recent video to attach below, but her name in the search bar of your channel should pull up quite a few, and there is always live video, which as as easy as a phone call for anyone serious about getting a better feel for Tulsi.

Who, at this point could be purchased with or without one of her pups, which is your best guarantee of a life long duo that get along, and will protect as a team.

Below is a the most recent video in which Tulsi makes a cameo, shown with my pick males from her last two breedings.