Click here on  Oz x Negrecha to see pups from this breeding or Kango Lefty to see how my keeper turned out.

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THE KANGO

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THE OLYMPIC SCHIZOPHRENIC

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THE OLYMPIC BI-POLAR

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THE OLYMPIC PARADOX

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THE SUEDRIC

That last title reminds me that I should give proper respect to the president of the KDCA ( kangal dog club of America ) Cedric Giraud ( simply suedric to those that know him for the man puppet he is to that evil genius behind the dark labyrinth that is the KDCA, Sue Kotcher )  without whose inspiration I may have never actually considered such an unlikely marriage.  And no, Suedric, I will not register the ones with white as anatolians, stop asking.

 Jesting aside, I’m actually fascinated to see what I get out of this.  I don’t do it just to curry favor with the Kangal and Dogo communities, no sir.  These are the two dogs, of all I have, that I would pair if I was to throw all the theory out the window.  This male, this female, are the two I would want by my side in a fight.  This male is my favorite dog, this bitch is my favorite bitch.   They are both smart, they are both tough, they are as close to fearless as I have.

But they are extreme opposites in two very important realms.  

1.  Independence

2.  Prey drive

 Regards the matter of independence: I think most people, myself included, would  prefer a balance.   Although I have no real qualms with my Kangal’s self sufficient nature, it does narrow his range of use.   And a Dogo is just as needy, by nature, which I personally tire of.  Nor is a Dogo a dog you can ever really trust around stock ( don’t believe the hype ) which is a definite drawback around here.  I’m not claiming or expecting to get a dog that magically combines only traits I want and vanquishes those I don’t, mind you. That’s no more likely than one that mixes in the worst of all possible ways.

  But It will be fascinating to see what we get regards “independence” from two dogs diametrically opposed in that regard.   One might even be tempted to draw some inferences about the dance of dominance on that score. 

  Having done extreme crosses regards independence before in crossing the ultimate rebel  ( akita ) with the ever needy Dogo, ( see Migraine ) and observing a nice splitting of the difference ( he was named, with a wink to the naysayers, at birth :) I’m not too concerned with the frankenstein theorists.  But I am hoping to get as much feedback as I can on this mix, from those who raise them. 

 Regards prey drive:  a flock guardian and a big game hunting dog ???   A dog you can trust left along with the most helpless little bite size newborn goat kids and one you really can’t leave alone with stock of any size.   Suffice to say I won’t suggest this mix to anyone looking for a stock guardian, or a hunting dog :)   But I think for everyone else…. or anyone else that can handle a 150 lbs. of fearless, dog aggressive, willful beast anyway; have at it, you might get the best dam dog you’ve ever owned.

 Physically I always like to point out to the Dogophiles that, as inbred as they most certainly are, crossing them is really the only humane thing to do.   Be interesting to see what sort of coats we get in terms of cold tolerance.  Dark is clearly dominant, many are brindle, white as usual is sparse.  I’m expecting good eyes, I’m expecting 30 plus inches at the shoulder.   Have to wait on structure, but having done Kangal x Boerboel crosses and produced dogs that could almost pass as kangals ( see Ghengis ) I suppose I should perhaps expect the Kangal’s appearance to hold sway.

  I’ll be keeping a pair, at least, with an eye towards a personal favorite— a personal pet.  I’ve got more hope of finding a dog that makes that cut from this litter than I have  from any in a long time, maybe ever.  No kidding.  But I’m a bit of a paradox myself.

To fast forward and see what we learned from our keeper, click Kango Lefty

 DANGOs

 Photos of Dangouno

Photos of other Dango’s

Dango’s aka The Olympic Road Dog

This is a cross that I expect to be a regular on the menu as soon as I find the right Dane.  That said I’ve done it several times with the best Dane I could find already.  I have adults here on the ranch to see, and others in the surrounding area.   For those who want a Dane; but not the dumb, sickly, frail, week nerved, short lived, drooling, couch potatoes that now ware the mantle…. this cross may be the quickest way to turn back the hands of time.  

Physically the result is really rather stunning.   Dane…ish in appearance, Dane like in scale, likely owing to the Dane being present in the Dogo already; but more muscular.  The most obvious physical difference is the head which looses the loose jowls, thin boned muzzle, the inherently stupid look, in favor of something tight lipped, wider in through the skull and muzzle,  more formidable looking.  

The body on the whole takes on a more solid look, while remaining quite agile, perhaps the single most athletic dog we have to date.  These dogs without exception move like the wind.  It really is a thing of beauty to watch.  

 Temperamentally I find them to be fairly balanced dogs; the Dogo’s dog aggression is nullified by the gentle giant.  Both breeds are exceptional with children, so no surprise that crosses seem to be also.  Prey drive is reduced relative the pure Dogo and increased relative the pure Dane, not bad for hunters perhaps, less so folks with livestock.  Not a cross I’d suggest for anyone whose surrounds might contain critters they don’t want hunted.

 We will continue to breed this combination,  As well as combining the mix with other breeds, for example we have taken a male Dogo/Dane to female Boerboel which makes for a nice versatile athletic molloser of considerable scale, while toning the prey drive down another notch.  Or taking it to a Kangal boerboel in what we call the Olympic Quatro, aka the Olympic maxi melt, aka the Olympic mastiff.  But the real sticking point is finding a Dane that I don’t feel is a step backwards in too many areas, relative these other breeds.  If /when I find a Dane that I can respect as a Dane, you can be sure we will do it all over again.